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+title: Svelte on The Changelog
+description: Listen to the interview here
+pubdate: 2019-01-31
+author: Rich Harris
+authorURL: https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris
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+Earlier this month, I had the privilege of appearing on [The Changelog](https://changelog.com/podcast), a podcast about software development. We had a fun (for me) and wide-ranging conversation:
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+* life as a coder inside a newsroom
+* the big compilers-as-frameworks trend
+* scalability
+* the [Great Divide](https://css-tricks.com/the-great-divide/)
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+...and, most importantly, Svelte 3.
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+Unless you hang out in our [Discord server](https://discord.gg/yy75DKs) or follow [@sveltejs](https://twitter.com/sveltejs) on Twitter, you might not know that Svelte 3 is just around the corner, and it's going to be a huge release. We've rethought the developer experience from the ground up, and while it *will* be a nuisance if you need to upgrade a Svelte 2 app (more on that soon) we think you're going to love it.
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+On the podcast [Adam](https://twitter.com/adamstac), [Jerod](https://twitter.com/jerodsanto) and I talk about some of the changes and why we're making them. You can listen here or on the [podcast page](https://changelog.com/podcast/332).
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+<audio data-theme="night" style="width: 100%" data-src="https://changelog.com/podcast/332/embed" src="https://cdn.changelog.com/uploads/podcast/332/the-changelog-332.mp3" preload="none" class="changelog-episode" controls></audio><p><a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/332">The Changelog 332: A UI framework without the framework</a> – Listen on <a href="https://changelog.com/">Changelog.com</a></p><script async src="//cdn.changelog.com/embed.js"></script>
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