@ -52,6 +52,48 @@ Anything read synchronously inside the `$derived` expression (or `$derived.by` f
To exempt a piece of state from being treated as a dependency, use [`untrack`](svelte#untrack).
To exempt a piece of state from being treated as a dependency, use [`untrack`](svelte#untrack).
## Overriding derived values
Derived expressions are recalculated when their dependencies change, but you can temporarily override their values by reassigning them (unless they are declared with `const`). This can be useful for things like _optimistic UI_, where a value is derived from the 'source of truth' (such as data from your server) but you'd like to show immediate feedback to the user:
```svelte
<script>
let { post, like } = $props();
let likes = $derived(post.likes);
async function onclick() {
// increment the `likes` count immediately...
likes += 1;
// and tell the server, which will eventually update `post`
try {
await like();
} catch {
// failed! roll back the change
likes -= 1;
}
}
</script>
<button{onclick}>🧡 {likes}</button>
```
> [!NOTE] Prior to Svelte 5.25, deriveds were read-only.
## Deriveds and reactivity
Unlike `$state`, which converts objects and arrays to [deeply reactive proxies]($state#Deep-state), `$derived` values are left as-is. For example, [in a case like this](/playground/untitled#H4sIAAAAAAAAE4VU22rjMBD9lUHd3aaQi9PdstS1A3t5XvpQ2Ic4D7I1iUUV2UjjNMX431eS7TRdSosxgjMzZ45mjt0yzffIYibvy0ojFJWqDKCQVBk2ZVup0LJ43TJ6rn2aBxw-FP2o67k9oCKP5dziW3hRaUJNjoYltjCyplWmM1JIIAn3FlL4ZIkTTtYez6jtj4w8WwyXv9GiIXiQxLVs9pfTMR7EuoSLIuLFbX7Z4930bZo_nBrD1bs834tlfvsBz9_SyX6PZXu9XaL4gOWn4sXjeyzftv4ZWfyxubpzxzg6LfD4MrooxELEosKCUPigQCMPKCZh0OtQE1iSxcsmdHuBvCiHZXALLXiN08EL3RRkaJ_kDVGle0HcSD5TPEeVtj67O4Nrg9aiSNtBY5oODJkrL5QsHtN2cgXp6nSJMWzpWWGasdlsGEMbzi5jPr5KFr0Ep7pdeM2-TCelCddIhDxAobi1jqF3cMaC1RKp64bAW9iFAmXGIHfd4wNXDabtOLN53w8W53VvJoZLh7xk4Rr3CoL-UNoLhWHrT1JQGcM17u96oES5K-kc2XOzkzqGCKL5De79OUTyyrg1zgwXsrEx3ESfx4Bz0M5UjVMHB24mw9SuXtXFoN13fYKOM1tyUT3FbvbWmSWCZX2Er-41u5xPoml45svRahl9Wb9aasbINJixDZwcPTbyTLZSUsAvrg_cPuCR7s782_WU8343Y72Qtlb8OYatwuOQvuN13M_hJKNfxann1v1U_B1KZ_D_mzhzhz24fw85CSz2irtN9w9HshBK7AQAAA==)...
```svelte
let items = $state([...]);
let index = $state(0);
let selected = $derived(items[index]);
```
...you can change (or `bind:` to) properties of `selected` and it will affect the underlying `items` array. If `items` was _not_ deeply reactive, mutating `selected` would have no effect.
## Update propagation
## Update propagation
Svelte uses something called _push-pull reactivity_ — when state is updated, everything that depends on the state (whether directly or indirectly) is immediately notified of the change (the 'push'), but derived values are not re-evaluated until they are actually read (the 'pull').
Svelte uses something called _push-pull reactivity_ — when state is updated, everything that depends on the state (whether directly or indirectly) is immediately notified of the change (the 'push'), but derived values are not re-evaluated until they are actually read (the 'pull').
@ -74,6 +74,8 @@ Teardown functions also run when the effect is destroyed, which happens when its
`$effect` automatically picks up any reactive values (`$state`, `$derived`, `$props`) that are _synchronously_ read inside its function body (including indirectly, via function calls) and registers them as dependencies. When those dependencies change, the `$effect` schedules a re-run.
`$effect` automatically picks up any reactive values (`$state`, `$derived`, `$props`) that are _synchronously_ read inside its function body (including indirectly, via function calls) and registers them as dependencies. When those dependencies change, the `$effect` schedules a re-run.
If `$state` and `$derived` are used directly inside the `$effect` (for example, during creation of a [reactive class](https://svelte.dev/docs/svelte/$state#Classes)), those values will _not_ be treated as dependencies.
Values that are read _asynchronously_ — after an `await` or inside a `setTimeout`, for example — will not be tracked. Here, the canvas will be repainted when `color` changes, but not when `size` changes ([demo](/playground/untitled#H4sIAAAAAAAAE31T246bMBD9lZF3pWSlBEirfaEQqdo_2PatVIpjBrDkGGQPJGnEv1e2IZfVal-wfHzmzJyZ4cIqqdCy9M-F0blDlnqArZjmB3f72XWRHVCRw_bc4me4aDWhJstSlllhZEfbQhekkMDKfwg5PFvihMvX5OXH_CJa1Zrb0-Kpqr5jkiwC48rieuDWQbqgZ6wqFLRcvkC-hYvnkWi1dWqa8ESQTxFRjfQWsOXiWzmr0sSLhEJu3p1YsoJkNUcdZUnN9dagrBu6FVRQHAM10sJRKgUG16bXcGxQ44AGdt7SDkTDdY02iqLHnJVU6hedlWuIp94JW6Tf8oBt_8GdTxlF0b4n0C35ZLBzXb3mmYn3ae6cOW74zj0YVzDNYXRHFt9mprNgHfZSl6mzml8CMoLvTV6wTZIUDEJv5us2iwMtiJRyAKG4tXnhl8O0yhbML0Wm-B7VNlSSSd31BG7z8oIZZ6dgIffAVY_5xdU9Qrz1Bnx8fCfwtZ7v8Qc9j3nB8PqgmMWlHIID6-bkVaPZwDySfWtKNGtquxQ23Qlsq2QJT0KIqb8dL0up6xQ2eIBkAg_c1FI_YqW0neLnFCqFpwmreedJYT7XX8FVOBfwWRhXstZrSXiwKQjUhOZeMIleb5JZfHWn2Yq5pWEpmR7Hv-N_wEqT8hEEAAA=)):
Values that are read _asynchronously_ — after an `await` or inside a `setTimeout`, for example — will not be tracked. Here, the canvas will be repainted when `color` changes, but not when `size` changes ([demo](/playground/untitled#H4sIAAAAAAAAE31T246bMBD9lZF3pWSlBEirfaEQqdo_2PatVIpjBrDkGGQPJGnEv1e2IZfVal-wfHzmzJyZ4cIqqdCy9M-F0blDlnqArZjmB3f72XWRHVCRw_bc4me4aDWhJstSlllhZEfbQhekkMDKfwg5PFvihMvX5OXH_CJa1Zrb0-Kpqr5jkiwC48rieuDWQbqgZ6wqFLRcvkC-hYvnkWi1dWqa8ESQTxFRjfQWsOXiWzmr0sSLhEJu3p1YsoJkNUcdZUnN9dagrBu6FVRQHAM10sJRKgUG16bXcGxQ44AGdt7SDkTDdY02iqLHnJVU6hedlWuIp94JW6Tf8oBt_8GdTxlF0b4n0C35ZLBzXb3mmYn3ae6cOW74zj0YVzDNYXRHFt9mprNgHfZSl6mzml8CMoLvTV6wTZIUDEJv5us2iwMtiJRyAKG4tXnhl8O0yhbML0Wm-B7VNlSSSd31BG7z8oIZZ6dgIffAVY_5xdU9Qrz1Bnx8fCfwtZ7v8Qc9j3nB8PqgmMWlHIID6-bkVaPZwDySfWtKNGtquxQ23Qlsq2QJT0KIqb8dL0up6xQ2eIBkAg_c1FI_YqW0neLnFCqFpwmreedJYT7XX8FVOBfwWRhXstZrSXiwKQjUhOZeMIleb5JZfHWn2Yq5pWEpmR7Hv-N_wEqT8hEEAAA=)):
```ts
```ts
@ -252,6 +254,8 @@ In general, `$effect` is best considered something of an escape hatch — useful
> [!NOTE] For things that are more complicated than a simple expression like `count * 2`, you can also use `$derived.by`.
> [!NOTE] For things that are more complicated than a simple expression like `count * 2`, you can also use `$derived.by`.
If you're using an effect because you want to be able to reassign the derived value (to build an optimistic UI, for example) note that [deriveds can be directly overridden]($derived#Overriding-derived-values) as of Svelte 5.25.
You might be tempted to do something convoluted with effects to link one value to another. The following example shows two inputs for "money spent" and "money left" that are connected to each other. If you update one, the other should update accordingly. Don't use effects for this ([demo](/playground/untitled#H4sIAAAAAAAACpVRy26DMBD8FcvKgUhtoIdeHBwp31F6MGSJkBbHwksEQvx77aWQqooq9bgzOzP7mGTdIHipPiZJowOpGJAv0po2VmfnDv4OSBErjYdneHWzBJaCjcx91TWOToUtCIEE3cig0OIty44r5l1oDtjOkyFIsv3GINQ_CNYyGegd1DVUlCR7oU9iilDUcP8S8roYs9n8p2wdYNVFm4csTx872BxNCcjr5I11fdgonEkXsjP2CoUUZWMv6m6wBz2x7yxaM-iJvWeRsvSbSVeUy5i0uf8vKA78NIeJLSZWv1I8jQjLdyK4XuTSeIdmVKJGGI4LdjVOiezwDu1yG74My8PLCQaSiroe5s_5C2PHrkVGAgAA)):
You might be tempted to do something convoluted with effects to link one value to another. The following example shows two inputs for "money spent" and "money left" that are connected to each other. If you update one, the other should update accordingly. Don't use effects for this ([demo](/playground/untitled#H4sIAAAAAAAACpVRy26DMBD8FcvKgUhtoIdeHBwp31F6MGSJkBbHwksEQvx77aWQqooq9bgzOzP7mGTdIHipPiZJowOpGJAv0po2VmfnDv4OSBErjYdneHWzBJaCjcx91TWOToUtCIEE3cig0OIty44r5l1oDtjOkyFIsv3GINQ_CNYyGegd1DVUlCR7oU9iilDUcP8S8roYs9n8p2wdYNVFm4csTx872BxNCcjr5I11fdgonEkXsjP2CoUUZWMv6m6wBz2x7yxaM-iJvWeRsvSbSVeUy5i0uf8vKA78NIeJLSZWv1I8jQjLdyK4XuTSeIdmVKJGGI4LdjVOiezwDu1yG74My8PLCQaSiroe5s_5C2PHrkVGAgAA)):
Here, the `$derived` updates `count`, which is `$state` and therefore forbidden to do. It is forbidden because the reactive graph could become unstable as a result, leading to subtle bugs, like values being stale or effects firing in the wrong order. To prevent this, Svelte errors when detecting an update to a `$state` variable.
This is forbidden because it introduces instability: if `<p>{count} is even: {even}</p>` is updated before `odd` is recalculated, `even` will be stale. In most cases the solution is to make everything derived:
```js
let even = $derived(count % 2 === 0);
let odd = $derived(!even);
```
To fix this:
If side-effects are unavoidable, use [`$effect`]($effect) instead.
- See if it's possible to refactor your `$derived` such that the update becomes unnecessary
- Think about why you need to update `$state` inside a `$derived` in the first place. Maybe it's because you're using `bind:`, which leads you down a bad code path, and separating input and output path (by splitting it up to an attribute and an event, or by using [Function bindings](bind#Function-bindings)) makes it possible avoid the update
- If it's unavoidable, you may need to use an [`$effect`]($effect) instead. This could include splitting parts of the `$derived` into an [`$effect`]($effect) which does the updates
- fix: prevent state runes from being called with spread ([#15585](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15585))
## 5.25.2
### Patch Changes
- feat: migrate reassigned deriveds to `$derived` ([#15581](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15581))
## 5.25.1
### Patch Changes
- fix: prevent dev server from throwing errors when attempting to retrieve the proxied value of an iframe's contentWindow ([#15577](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15577))
## 5.25.0
### Minor Changes
- feat: make deriveds writable ([#15570](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15570))
## 5.24.1
### Patch Changes
- fix: use `get` in constructor for deriveds ([#15300](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15300))
- fix: ensure toStore root effect is connected to correct parent effect ([#15574](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15574))
## 5.24.0
### Minor Changes
- feat: allow state created in deriveds/effects to be written/read locally without self-invalidation ([#15553](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15553))
### Patch Changes
- fix: check if DOM prototypes are extensible ([#15569](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15569))
- Keep inlined trailing JSDoc comments of properties when running svelte-migrate ([#15567](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15567))
- fix: simplify set calls for proxyable values ([#15548](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15548))
- fix: don't depend on deriveds created inside the current reaction ([#15564](https://github.com/sveltejs/svelte/pull/15564))
Here, the `$derived` updates `count`, which is `$state` and therefore forbidden to do. It is forbidden because the reactive graph could become unstable as a result, leading to subtle bugs, like values being stale or effects firing in the wrong order. To prevent this, Svelte errors when detecting an update to a `$state` variable.
This is forbidden because it introduces instability: if `<p>{count} is even: {even}</p>` is updated before `odd` is recalculated, `even` will be stale. In most cases the solution is to make everything derived:
```js
let even = $derived(count % 2 === 0);
let odd = $derived(!even);
```
To fix this:
If side-effects are unavoidable, use [`$effect`]($effect) instead.
- See if it's possible to refactor your `$derived` such that the update becomes unnecessary
- Think about why you need to update `$state` inside a `$derived` in the first place. Maybe it's because you're using `bind:`, which leads you down a bad code path, and separating input and output path (by splitting it up to an attribute and an event, or by using [Function bindings](bind#Function-bindings)) makes it possible avoid the update
- If it's unavoidable, you may need to use an [`$effect`]($effect) instead. This could include splitting parts of the `$derived` into an [`$effect`]($effect) which does the updates
consterror=newError(`state_unsafe_local_read\nReading state that was created inside the same derived is forbidden. Consider using \`untrack\` to read locally created state\nhttps://svelte.dev/e/state_unsafe_local_read`);
paoloricciuti
6 months ago