diff --git a/backend/models/rendering.ts b/backend/models/rendering.ts
index 5ef2f2651..3e1a192d4 100644
--- a/backend/models/rendering.ts
+++ b/backend/models/rendering.ts
@@ -457,7 +457,24 @@ class Rendering {
       }
       const tag = `block-${definition.block}`
       tags.push(tag)
-      attributes[tag] = (definition.props ?? []).map((prop) => prop.name)
+      /*
+        Every prop under both spellings, because the two ends of this see different ones.
+
+        A prop is declared in camelCase (`showIcons`), which is what the renderer writes and what the
+        sanitiser is therefore asked about on the way in. But `postProcess` re-parses its own output
+        with cheerio, and an HTML parser lowercases attribute names -- so what is STORED is
+        `showicons`, and a later save that sends that render back up offers the sanitiser a name its
+        allow list has never heard of, which is dropped. A page properties change made with no editor
+        open sends exactly that, so the props of every block on the page vanished the first time
+        anybody retagged it, silently and for good: nothing renders them again until the page is
+        saved from an editor, which produces the render from the source afresh.
+
+        Matching both is what makes this pass idempotent. Nothing is lost by it either, since HTML
+        attribute names are case-insensitive and Lit observes the lowercased form regardless.
+      */
+      attributes[tag] = [
+        ...new Set((definition.props ?? []).flatMap((prop) => [prop.name, prop.name.toLowerCase()]))
+      ]
     }
     return { tags, attributes }
   }
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/EditorAsciidoc.vue b/frontend/src/components/EditorAsciidoc.vue
index fdff7ac3d..f45ddc69b 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/EditorAsciidoc.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/EditorAsciidoc.vue
@@ -1177,9 +1177,7 @@ async function processContent(newContent) {
     (el) => el.active ?? 0
   )
 
-  pageStore.$patch({
-    render: html
-  })
+  pageStore.setRender(html)
   await nextTick()
   // -> With the preview pane closed there is no DOM to attend to. The render is stored either way, so
   //    the store still holds what a save would send
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/EditorMarkdown.vue b/frontend/src/components/EditorMarkdown.vue
index 06b2dbe66..17abfdf10 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/EditorMarkdown.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/EditorMarkdown.vue
@@ -1346,9 +1346,7 @@ function processContent(newContent) {
     (el) => el.active ?? 0
   )
 
-  pageStore.$patch({
-    render: html
-  })
+  pageStore.setRender(html)
   nextTick(async () => {
     // -> With the preview pane closed there is no DOM to attend to. The render is stored either way, so
     //    the store still holds what a save would send
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/EditorVisual.vue b/frontend/src/components/EditorVisual.vue
index 467f67358..564bc576d 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/EditorVisual.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/EditorVisual.vue
@@ -1189,9 +1189,9 @@ const syncContentToStore = debounce(() => {
     content: markdown,
     // -> What the author has written IS the source, whatever the load did or did not deliver; see
     //    the guard in `pageSave`
-    contentLoaded: true,
-    render: editor.getRender()
+    contentLoaded: true
   })
+  pageStore.setRender(editor.getRender())
 }, 500)
 
 /**
@@ -1362,7 +1362,7 @@ onMounted(async () => {
     created has no render at all until this runs.
   */
   nextTick(() => {
-    pageStore.$patch({ render: editor.getRender() })
+    pageStore.setRender(editor.getRender())
     refreshActive()
     editor.view.focus()
   })
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/PageBlog.vue b/frontend/src/components/PageBlog.vue
index fb613e93e..a9895d0a0 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/PageBlog.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/PageBlog.vue
@@ -72,7 +72,18 @@
             color="primary"
             padding="xs md"
             :label="t(`common.blog.newPost`)">
-            <page-new-menu hide-asset-btn :only="POST_EDITORS" :base-path="pageStore.path" />
+            <!--
+              What a post may be written with: the editors that author an ARTICLE, which is what a
+              post is. Not `redirect` and not `blog` — both write a page with no body, and
+              `models/blogs.ts` does not count either as a post, so creating one here would add
+              nothing to this listing. Read from the store rather than listed here, because the
+              same partition decides where `PageNewMenu` draws its divider and because a list
+              written out again is one that can fall behind an editor being added.
+            -->
+            <page-new-menu
+              hide-asset-btn
+              :only="siteStore.articleEditors"
+              :base-path="pageStore.path" />
           </w-btn>
         </template>
       </div>
@@ -178,16 +189,6 @@ import { useUserStore } from '@/stores/user'
 
 import PageNewMenu from '@/components/PageNewMenu.vue'
 
-/**
- * What a post may be written with, offered by the New Post button on an empty blog.
- *
- * The editors that author an ARTICLE, which is what a post is. Not `redirect` and not `blog` — both
- * write a page with no body, and `models/blogs.ts` does not count either as a post: a redirection is
- * a doorway and a nested blog is its own blog, so creating one here would add nothing to this
- * listing. Filtered against what the site has enabled, so this is a ceiling and not a list.
- */
-const POST_EDITORS = ['markdown', 'visual']
-
 /**
  * A blog's front page: its posts, rather than an article.
  *
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/PageNewMenu.vue b/frontend/src/components/PageNewMenu.vue
index 6e945dbb6..0ae29b814 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/PageNewMenu.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/PageNewMenu.vue
@@ -9,10 +9,14 @@
 
         Narrowed by `only` where a caller has a reason to offer fewer -- see the prop.
       -->
-      <w-item v-for="editor of offeredEditors" :key="editor" clickable @click="create(editor)">
-        <blueprint-icon :icon="EDITOR_ICONS[editor]" />
-        <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(`common.createPage.${editor}`) }}</w-item-section>
-      </w-item>
+      <template v-for="editor of offeredEditors" :key="editor">
+        <!-- -> Where the editors that write an article end; see `dividedAt` -->
+        <w-separator v-if="editor === dividedAt" class="my-2" inset />
+        <w-item clickable @click="create(editor)">
+          <blueprint-icon :icon="EDITOR_ICONS[editor]" />
+          <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(`common.createPage.${editor}`) }}</w-item-section>
+        </w-item>
+      </template>
       <template v-if="props.hideAssetBtn === false">
         <w-separator class="my-2" inset />
         <w-item clickable @click="openFileManager">
@@ -36,30 +40,18 @@ import { computed } from 'vue'
 import { useI18n } from 'vue-i18n'
 
 import { loading } from '@/composables/loading'
+/*
+  The icons, shared with the other two screens that offer editors. WHICH are offered, and in what
+  order, is still `siteStore.activeEditors` alone. The wording lives in the locale file as
+  `common.createPage.<editor>`, keyed by the same ids, so an editor added to that list needs an icon
+  there and a string there.
+*/
+import { EDITOR_ICONS } from '@/helpers/editors'
 
 import { useEditorStore } from '@/stores/editor'
 import { usePageStore } from '@/stores/page'
 import { useSiteStore } from '@/stores/site'
 
-/**
- * The icon each editor is offered under.
- *
- * WHICH of them are offered, and in what order, is `siteStore.activeEditors` -- only that list
- * decides. The wording lives in the locale file as `common.createPage.<editor>`, keyed by the same
- * ids, so an editor added to that list needs an icon here and a string there.
- *
- * `redirect` is not an editor the site can turn off, because it authors nothing: a redirection is a
- * page with a target instead of a body.
- */
-const EDITOR_ICONS = {
-  markdown: 'markdown',
-  visual: 'google-presentation',
-  asciidoc: 'asciidoc',
-  channel: 'chat',
-  blog: 'typewriter-with-paper',
-  api: 'api',
-  redirect: 'advance'
-}
 
 // PROPS
 
@@ -123,6 +115,28 @@ const offeredEditors = computed(() =>
     : siteStore.activeEditors
 )
 
+/**
+ * The editor the divider is drawn above, or null where there is nothing to divide.
+ *
+ * It separates the editors that put an author in front of a blank article from the ones that write a
+ * settings document instead -- a blog, a redirection -- because those are a different kind of thing
+ * to be choosing between. `siteStore.articleEditors` is where that partition lives; it is the
+ * server's own, and the blog's New Post button is drawn from the same answer.
+ *
+ * Read off the list rather than fixed at a position, since which editors a site has on is the
+ * store's answer and this menu can be narrowed further by `only`. The first offered editor that is
+ * not an article editor -- and only when something above it was one, so the divider can never open
+ * the menu.
+ *
+ * Null for a menu that is all of one kind: a blog's New Post button offers article editors and
+ * nothing else, and a site with every article editor switched off has nothing above the line.
+ */
+const dividedAt = computed(() => {
+  const offered = offeredEditors.value
+  const first = offered.findIndex((editor) => !siteStore.articleEditors.includes(editor))
+  return first > 0 ? offered[first] : null
+})
+
 // METHODS
 
 async function create(editor) {
diff --git a/frontend/src/components/WelcomeOverlay.vue b/frontend/src/components/WelcomeOverlay.vue
index 2481ab83e..57cfb88db 100644
--- a/frontend/src/components/WelcomeOverlay.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/components/WelcomeOverlay.vue
@@ -8,26 +8,25 @@
       <div class="welcome-actions">
         <w-btn push color="primary" :label="t(`welcome.createHome`)" icon="la:plus" no-caps>
           <w-menu class="translucent-menu" auto-close anchor="top left" self="bottom left">
+            <!--
+              The editors that author an ARTICLE, which is what a home page is -- so a blog and a
+              redirection are not offered, and nor is anything the site has switched off.
+              `siteStore.articleEditors` is the same answer the New Page menu draws its top group
+              from and the same one a blog's New Post button uses, which is what keeps the three
+              screens showing one set rather than three lists that drift.
+
+              The wording is this screen's own (`welcome.createHome<Editor>`, "Using the Markdown
+              Editor" rather than "New Markdown Page"), because here the choice is how to write the
+              wiki's first page rather than what to add to it.
+            -->
             <w-list padding>
-              <w-item clickable @click="createHomePage(`visual`)" v-if="siteStore.editors.visual">
-                <blueprint-icon icon="google-presentation" />
-                <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(`welcome.createHomeVisual`) }}</w-item-section>
-                <w-item-section side><w-icon name="mdi:chevron-right" /></w-item-section>
-              </w-item>
-              <w-item
-                clickable
-                @click="createHomePage(`markdown`)"
-                v-if="siteStore.editors.markdown">
-                <blueprint-icon icon="markdown" />
-                <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(`welcome.createHomeMarkdown`) }}</w-item-section>
-                <w-item-section side><w-icon name="mdi:chevron-right" /></w-item-section>
-              </w-item>
               <w-item
+                v-for="editor of siteStore.articleEditors"
+                :key="editor"
                 clickable
-                @click="createHomePage(`asciidoc`)"
-                v-if="siteStore.editors.asciidoc">
-                <blueprint-icon icon="asciidoc" />
-                <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(`welcome.createHomeAsciidoc`) }}</w-item-section>
+                @click="createHomePage(editor)">
+                <blueprint-icon :icon="EDITOR_ICONS[editor]" />
+                <w-item-section class="pr-2">{{ t(labelFor(editor)) }}</w-item-section>
                 <w-item-section side><w-icon name="mdi:chevron-right" /></w-item-section>
               </w-item>
             </w-list>
@@ -59,14 +58,16 @@ import { loading } from '@/composables/loading'
 import { notify } from '@/composables/notify'
 import { useMeta } from '@/composables/meta'
 
-import { useFlagsStore } from '@/stores/flags'
+import { EDITOR_ICONS } from '@/helpers/editors'
+
+import { capitalize } from 'es-toolkit/string'
+
 import { usePageStore } from '@/stores/page'
 import { useSiteStore } from '@/stores/site'
 import { useUserStore } from '@/stores/user'
 
 // STORES
 
-const flagsStore = useFlagsStore()
 const pageStore = usePageStore()
 const siteStore = useSiteStore()
 const userStore = useUserStore()
@@ -87,6 +88,19 @@ useMeta(() => ({
 
 // METHODS
 
+/**
+ * The locale key naming an editor on this screen.
+ *
+ * Composed rather than tabulated, the same way the admin area names an editor
+ * (`admin.editors.<id>Name`) and the search filter reads it back. The three that exist —
+ * `createHomeMarkdown`, `createHomeVisual`, `createHomeAsciidoc` — are keyed by the editor id with
+ * its first letter raised, so an article editor added later needs a string of its own here or the
+ * menu shows the key.
+ */
+function labelFor(editor) {
+  return `welcome.createHome${capitalize(editor)}`
+}
+
 async function createHomePage(editor) {
   loading.show()
   siteStore.overlay = ''
diff --git a/frontend/src/helpers/editors.js b/frontend/src/helpers/editors.js
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..12a3b2f0e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/frontend/src/helpers/editors.js
@@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
+/**
+ * The icon each editor is offered under.
+ *
+ * Shared because three screens now offer the same editors and would otherwise each keep their own
+ * copy of this table: the New Page menu, the New Post button on a blog, and the Welcome screen a
+ * wiki with no home page yet greets its first author with.
+ *
+ * WHICH editors are offered, and in what order, is never decided here — `siteStore.activeEditors` and
+ * `siteStore.articleEditors` are the only things that answer that, so what a page can be created with
+ * and what a search can be filtered by cannot drift apart. This is only what each one looks like.
+ *
+ * `redirect` is in the table though no site can create one without turning it on, because the table
+ * has to cover every editor a page may already have been written with.
+ *
+ * The names are blueprint icons rather than Iconify references — `BlueprintIcon` resolves one to
+ * `img:/_assets/icons/ultraviolet-<name>.svg` — so they are outside the build-time icon scan, and
+ * composing one from a variable is safe here in a way it would not be for an `mdi:` name.
+ */
+export const EDITOR_ICONS = {
+  markdown: 'markdown',
+  visual: 'google-presentation',
+  asciidoc: 'asciidoc',
+  channel: 'chat',
+  blog: 'typewriter-with-paper',
+  api: 'api',
+  redirect: 'advance'
+}
diff --git a/frontend/src/pages/Index.vue b/frontend/src/pages/Index.vue
index a6e5bed85..ccda41cae 100644
--- a/frontend/src/pages/Index.vue
+++ b/frontend/src/pages/Index.vue
@@ -635,6 +635,16 @@ const showTocPanelBtn = computed(() => tocIsPanel.value && showSidebar.value &&
  */
 const isBlog = computed(() => pageStore.editor === 'blog')
 
+/**
+ * Whether the page on screen is a redirection, which is a page with nowhere to read: it takes the
+ * reader on rather than showing them anything -- see `PageRedirect.vue`, which is drawn in place of
+ * the article column entirely.
+ *
+ * Its own computed rather than the comparison written out at each site, because three things now ask
+ * it and they have to keep agreeing: the two view tabs and the sidebar.
+ */
+const isRedirect = computed(() => pageStore.editor === 'redirect')
+
 /**
  * Whether a blog wants the column beside its listing at all.
  *
@@ -656,7 +666,7 @@ const showSidebar = computed(() => {
     // -> Contents, tags and a rating, all of a page that is not there
     !pageStore.notFound &&
     // -> Nor of one nobody stays on: a redirection has no headings to list and is gone in a moment
-    pageStore.editor !== 'redirect' &&
+    !isRedirect.value &&
     // -> A blog keeps the column but fills it with its own thing, and only where it asked for one
     (!isBlog.value || blogWantsSidebar.value)
   )
@@ -750,6 +760,13 @@ const showTalkTab = computed(
     // -> A blog's front page is a listing rather than an article: there is nothing here to discuss,
     //    and the discussion a reader wants belongs on the post they are reading
     !isBlog.value &&
+    /*
+      Nor a redirection, for a stronger version of the same reason: it is a doorway rather than a
+      page, the reader is on their way through it, and the discussion they want is about wherever it
+      leads. There is no article column for a second view to sit beside either -- `PageRedirect`
+      replaces it -- so the strip was chrome over a page nobody is reading.
+    */
+    !isRedirect.value &&
     userStore.pagePermissions.includes('read:comments')
 )
 
@@ -777,6 +794,8 @@ const showLinksTab = computed(
     !editorStore.isActive &&
     // -> As above: the strip is gone on a blog, and a tab with no strip to sit in cannot be reached
     !isBlog.value &&
+    // -> And on a redirection, which is drawn in place of the column the tab would switch
+    !isRedirect.value &&
     Boolean(pageStore.id)
 )
 
diff --git a/frontend/src/stores/page.js b/frontend/src/stores/page.js
index 79e18eeb5..7b40352c8 100644
--- a/frontend/src/stores/page.js
+++ b/frontend/src/stores/page.js
@@ -127,6 +127,20 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
      */
     localeRelations: [],
     render: '',
+    /**
+     * Whether `render` above is HTML an editor in this session produced, rather than the page's own.
+     *
+     * Every page load fills `render` from the server, and what comes back has already been through
+     * `postProcess` — so sending it up again re-sanitizes an output rather than an input, which is not
+     * the no-op it looks like. It is done with the SAVING session's permissions, so a save by somebody
+     * without `write:scripts` on the page strips the author's `<script>` out of a render nobody
+     * touched. And the properties panel, the tags editor and the locale relations dialog all reach the
+     * Save button with no editor open at all, which is exactly that case.
+     *
+     * So the render goes up only when an editor made one — `updatePage` leaves the column alone for a
+     * key it was not sent. See the guard in `pageSave`, which is the same shape as `contentLoaded`'s.
+     */
+    renderProduced: false,
     scriptJsLoad: '',
     scriptJsUnload: '',
     scriptCss: '',
@@ -257,6 +271,8 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
             // -> The field is present exactly when the source came with the page, which is what makes
             //    the copy in this store safe to save; a view-mode load leaves the previous one in place
             contentLoaded: Object.hasOwn(pageData, 'content'),
+            // -> `...pageData` above brought the stored render with it; see `renderProduced`
+            renderProduced: false,
             relations: pageData.relations.map((r) =>
               pick(r, ['id', 'position', 'label', 'caption', 'icon', 'target'])
             ),
@@ -321,6 +337,7 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
       this.$patch({
         ...pageData,
         contentLoaded: Object.hasOwn(pageData, 'content'),
+        renderProduced: false,
         relations: pageData.relations.map((r) =>
           pick(r, ['id', 'position', 'label', 'caption', 'icon', 'target'])
         ),
@@ -411,6 +428,7 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
         content: '',
         contentLoaded: false,
         render: '',
+        renderProduced: false,
         toc: [],
         tags: [],
         relations: [],
@@ -608,6 +626,7 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
         // -> A page being created has no stored source to lose: whatever it starts with IS the source
         contentLoaded: true,
         render: '',
+        renderProduced: false,
         /*
           A redirection is in neither the browse menu nor search by default: the first because it is a
           doorway rather than a page to land on, the second because a result for one would stand in
@@ -886,6 +905,20 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
         this.$patch({ title })
       }
     },
+    /**
+     * Take the HTML an editor has just produced for the page in this store.
+     *
+     * The one way `render` is written from the client, so that the flag saying it may be saved cannot
+     * drift from the value it describes — see `renderProduced`.
+     *
+     * @param {string} html
+     */
+    setRender(html) {
+      this.$patch({
+        render: html,
+        renderProduced: true
+      })
+    },
     /**
      * PAGE SAVE
      */
@@ -951,6 +984,21 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
           console.warn('Page source was never loaded; saving without touching the stored content.')
         }
 
+        /*
+          And never send back a render this store did not make.
+
+          Every page load fills `render` from the server, so unless an editor has replaced it the store
+          is holding the page's own stored HTML — already sanitized, already anchored, already reduced
+          to a table of contents. Sending that up runs `postProcess` over its own output, with this
+          session's permissions and not the author's, which is how changing a tag from the page view
+          strips the `<script>` out of a page somebody else wrote. Dropping the key leaves the column
+          alone, and the only save that has nothing to say about the render is one that did not touch
+          the source.
+        */
+        if (!this.renderProduced) {
+          delete body.render
+        }
+
         let pageData
         if (editorStore.mode === 'create') {
           const resp = unwrap(
@@ -993,6 +1041,8 @@ export const usePageStore = defineStore('page', {
             pick(r, ['locale', 'path', 'title'])
           ),
           tocDepth: pick(pageData.tocDepth, ['min', 'max']),
+          // -> The reply carries the stored render, as any other load does; see `renderProduced`
+          renderProduced: false,
           // -> What was pending is now what is stored, which is the whole of what a save means here
           storedProps: storedPropsOf(pageData)
         })
diff --git a/frontend/src/stores/site.js b/frontend/src/stores/site.js
index 4fdae5323..d975cd366 100644
--- a/frontend/src/stores/site.js
+++ b/frontend/src/stores/site.js
@@ -53,6 +53,20 @@ function describeLocales(codes, installed) {
   })
 }
 
+/**
+ * The editors whose pages have no article of their own.
+ *
+ * The client's copy of `BODYLESS_EDITORS` in `backend/models/pages.ts`, which is what decides on the
+ * server whether an empty content column is an error and — through `isBodylessEditor` — which pages
+ * under a blog count as its posts. The two have to agree: an editor this list calls bodyless while
+ * the server does not is one the blog offers to write a post with and then never lists.
+ *
+ * Longer than the server's by the two behind the experimental flag, which have no editor there to
+ * have an opinion about them yet. Both plainly belong here: a discussion and a set of API docs are
+ * not somebody being put in front of a blank article, which is the whole of what this divides.
+ */
+const BODYLESS_EDITORS = ['blog', 'channel', 'api', 'redirect']
+
 export const useSiteStore = defineStore('site', {
   state: () => ({
     id: null,
@@ -299,6 +313,21 @@ export const useSiteStore = defineStore('site', {
         ...(this.editors.redirect ? ['redirect'] : [])
       ]
     },
+    /**
+     * The active editors that put an author in front of a blank article.
+     *
+     * `activeEditors` minus the ones that write a settings document instead — a blog's front page is
+     * a listing of the posts under it, a redirection is a target. Derived from that list rather than
+     * written out again, so an editor a site has switched off is missing from both and the order is
+     * the one the menu already uses.
+     *
+     * Two callers, and they want it for the same reason. A blog's **New Post** button offers exactly
+     * these, since a post is an article and `models/blogs.ts` does not count anything else as one.
+     * And `PageNewMenu` draws its divider where this list ends.
+     */
+    articleEditors() {
+      return this.activeEditors.filter((editor) => !BODYLESS_EDITORS.includes(editor))
+    },
     /** Whether `code` is one of the locales this site has enabled. */
     isActiveLocale: (state) => (code) => state.locales.active.some((lc) => lc.code === code),
     /**