diff --git a/.changeset/gold-times-see.md b/.changeset/gold-times-see.md
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..f8d5da5042
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.changeset/gold-times-see.md
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+---
+'svelte': patch
+---
+
+fix: ensure deriveds values are correct across batches
diff --git a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/batch.js b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/batch.js
index a09654bfc0..ebaed93e9c 100644
--- a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/batch.js
+++ b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/batch.js
@@ -366,11 +366,11 @@ export class Batch {
 	 * Associate a change to a given source with the current
 	 * batch, noting its previous and current values
 	 * @param {Source} source
-	 * @param {any} value
+	 * @param {any} old_value
 	 */
-	capture(source, value) {
-		if (value !== UNINITIALIZED && !this.previous.has(source)) {
-			this.previous.set(source, value);
+	capture(source, old_value) {
+		if (old_value !== UNINITIALIZED && !this.previous.has(source)) {
+			this.previous.set(source, old_value);
 		}
 
 		// Don't save errors in `batch_values`, or they won't be thrown in `runtime.js#get`
@@ -572,7 +572,7 @@ export class Batch {
 
 		// ...and undo changes belonging to other batches
 		for (const batch of batches) {
-			if (batch === this) continue;
+			if (batch === this || batch.is_fork) continue;
 
 			for (const [source, previous] of batch.previous) {
 				if (!batch_values.has(source)) {
@@ -1020,13 +1020,6 @@ export function fork(fn) {
 		source.v = value;
 	}
 
-	// make writable deriveds dirty, so they recalculate correctly
-	for (source of batch.current.keys()) {
-		if ((source.f & DERIVED) !== 0) {
-			set_signal_status(source, DIRTY);
-		}
-	}
-
 	return {
 		commit: async () => {
 			if (committed) {
diff --git a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/deriveds.js b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/deriveds.js
index 3478784309..aed55f7fba 100644
--- a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/deriveds.js
+++ b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/deriveds.js
@@ -371,6 +371,7 @@ export function execute_derived(derived) {
  * @returns {void}
  */
 export function update_derived(derived) {
+	var old_value = derived.v;
 	var value = execute_derived(derived);
 
 	if (!derived.equals(value)) {
@@ -382,6 +383,7 @@ export function update_derived(derived) {
 		// change, `derived.equals` may incorrectly return `true`
 		if (!current_batch?.is_fork || derived.deps === null) {
 			derived.v = value;
+			current_batch?.capture(derived, old_value);
 
 			// deriveds without dependencies should never be recomputed
 			if (derived.deps === null) {
diff --git a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/sources.js b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/sources.js
index f4ae92659c..3ccde0f211 100644
--- a/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/sources.js
+++ b/packages/svelte/src/internal/client/reactivity/sources.js
@@ -231,7 +231,11 @@ export function internal_set(source, value, updated_during_traversal = null) {
 				execute_derived(derived);
 			}
 
-			update_derived_status(derived);
+			// During time traveling we don't want to reset the status so that
+			// traversal of the graph in the other batches still happens
+			if (batch_values === null) {
+				update_derived_status(derived);
+			}
 		}
 
 		source.wv = increment_write_version();
diff --git a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/_config.js b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/_config.js
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..043f1610fb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/_config.js
@@ -0,0 +1,23 @@
+import { tick } from 'svelte';
+import { test } from '../../test';
+
+export default test({
+	async test({ assert, target }) {
+		await tick();
+		const [increment, shift] = target.querySelectorAll('button');
+
+		increment.click();
+		await tick();
+		assert.htmlEqual(
+			target.innerHTML,
+			`<button>clicks: 0 - 0 - 0</button> <button>shift</button> <p>true - true</p>`
+		);
+
+		shift.click();
+		await tick();
+		assert.htmlEqual(
+			target.innerHTML,
+			`<button>clicks: 1 - 1 - 1</button> <button>shift</button> <p>false - false</p>`
+		);
+	}
+});
diff --git a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/main.svelte b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/main.svelte
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..d1d979126d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-eager-derived/main.svelte
@@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
+<script>
+	
+	let count = $state(0);
+	const delayedCount = $derived(await push(count));
+	const derivedCount = $derived(count);
+
+	let resolvers = [];
+
+	function push(value) {
+        if (!value) return value;
+		const { promise, resolve } = Promise.withResolvers();
+		resolvers.push(() => resolve(value));
+		return promise;
+	}
+</script>
+
+<button onclick={() => count += 1}>
+	clicks: {count} - {delayedCount} - {derivedCount}
+</button> 
+<button onclick={() => resolvers.shift()?.()}>shift</button>
+
+<p>{$state.eager(count) !== count} - {$state.eager(derivedCount) !== derivedCount}</p>
diff --git a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/_config.js b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/_config.js
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..98440b6922
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/_config.js
@@ -0,0 +1,16 @@
+import { tick } from 'svelte';
+import { test } from '../../test';
+
+export default test({
+	async test({ assert, target, logs }) {
+		const [btn] = target.querySelectorAll('button');
+
+		btn.click();
+		await tick();
+		assert.deepEqual(logs, [10]);
+
+		btn.click();
+		await tick();
+		assert.deepEqual(logs, [10, 10]);
+	}
+});
diff --git a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/main.svelte b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/main.svelte
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..16c1668480
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-fork-discard-derived-writable-uninitialized/main.svelte
@@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
+<script>
+	import { fork } from 'svelte';
+
+	let s = $state(1);
+	let d = $derived(s * 10);
+</script>
+
+<button
+	onclick={() => {
+		const f = fork(() => {
+			// d has not been read yet, so this write happens with an uninitialized old value
+			s = 2;
+			d = 99;
+		});
+
+		f.discard();
+		console.log(d);
+	}}
+>
+	test
+</button>
diff --git a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-unresolved-promise/_config.js b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-unresolved-promise/_config.js
index e9ccbba2b6..c6f65c33be 100644
--- a/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-unresolved-promise/_config.js
+++ b/packages/svelte/tests/runtime-runes/samples/async-unresolved-promise/_config.js
@@ -18,6 +18,14 @@ export default test({
 		increment.click();
 		await tick();
 
+		assert.htmlEqual(
+			target.innerHTML,
+			`
+				<button>increment</button>
+				<p>0</p>
+			`
+		);
+
 		increment.click();
 		await tick();
 
@@ -28,5 +36,27 @@ export default test({
 				<p>2</p>
 			`
 		);
+
+		increment.click();
+		await tick();
+
+		assert.htmlEqual(
+			target.innerHTML,
+			`
+				<button>increment</button>
+				<p>2</p>
+			`
+		);
+
+		increment.click();
+		await tick();
+
+		assert.htmlEqual(
+			target.innerHTML,
+			`
+				<button>increment</button>
+				<p>4</p>
+			`
+		);
 	}
 });